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Post by FUEL on June 6th 2016, 2:53 pm

I don't want anybody to lose out on chance of grabbing car numbers, sponsors, or drivers for next seasons action of the Sony Cup Series. I feel like we need an accurate time when Silly Season will start. Like last year, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO JUMP STRAIGHT INTO A CAR RIGHT AS SILLY SEASON STARTS. It's simply to get teams and sponsors in line. That will start in August. Expecting sometime early August exactly like last year. Almost all the drivers and sponsor's contracts for the teams end after this year so sponsors and drivers alike are all in the air for grabs for next year. It'll be interesting to see how Silly Season plays out and where drivers will end up for next year but we will find out as the season progresses. Last year silly season went on from August until December, and even into January and February little teams started up late in the going. So Silly Season, setting up teams, sponsors, and drivers DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY IN AUGUST. It's a long process and teams and drivers want to be sure if that is the driver or team they want to race for in 2017.

Also, coming sometime this summer which could be very soon. The release of the 2017 Sony Cup Series car will be released to the public. Drivers have been testing this car, it's been very quiet in the garage. Nobody has been saying anything as we have been keeping it a secret to the public waiting on the release date as some drivers know what it is (they've tested it) and some have not! Expect the new mod for next year to be released this summer before Silly Season.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by McBlair on June 6th 2016, 3:11 pm

Honestly, I would put it out in July. Just an opinion tho.

I know some people'll jump and try to sign drivers right away but I feel like where the summer is the time when people are the least busy having the whole summer as the silly season plus the months after that would work since people could use the whole summer to decide what would be best for their teams and come up with ideas for drivers, etc.

Just an opinion.
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by CJ Racing on June 6th 2016, 3:37 pm

Sounds like fun, can't wait to see what everyone's got planned, I know that I have some ideas Smile .
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by f1fan on June 6th 2016, 4:05 pm

I thought we were doing the draft idea?

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by FUEL on June 6th 2016, 4:30 pm

We will probably make a video about it. Have people comment on the video and owners reply to them but it will also be done on the website.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by McBlair on June 6th 2016, 5:12 pm

f1fan wrote:I thought we were doing the draft idea?
What's the draft idea?
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by JJRacer89 on June 6th 2016, 9:00 pm

I agree let the silly season stuff happen in August or so. I want to enjoy the next couple months of flat-out competition and go after wins right now.

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Post by Mr.YAMP on June 6th 2016, 9:39 pm

Okay I think we don't do the draft but we have the video up. We'll have to do one for each series this time though.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by CJ Racing on June 6th 2016, 9:50 pm

But does that mean no reserved rides(basically a free-for-all)? And how would it affect the contract status of drivers?
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by McBlair on June 6th 2016, 9:54 pm

I'm kinda confused on how signing up for the 2017 season will work.
Like the draft and the free-for-all video...? What. I'm either stunned or not the only one confused. I'm just curious on what both are.

Is the video like classic NR sign-ups and the draft where the worst teams up to the best teams pick drivers? Just a guess. I dunno at the moment.
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Post by f1fan on June 6th 2016, 9:54 pm

I liked the draft because it was insanely fun for the owners. We would all try and fill our rides as fast as we could to try and get the best line up.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by f1fan on June 6th 2016, 10:04 pm

McBlair wrote:I'm kinda confused on how signing up for the 2017 season will work.
Like the draft and the free-for-all video...? What. I'm either stunned or not the only one confused. I'm just curious on what both are.

Is the video like classic NR sign-ups and the draft where the worst teams up to the best teams pick drivers? Just a guess. I dunno at the moment.

The old system worked like this.

-Noah would make the video go live and tell the team owners when it would go up, but not the drivers.
-The team owners would all be on when the video went up.
-We COULD not hire a driver until their owner commented on  video. (I remember back in the day there was a big battle between myself and Luke Martin for Hayden Kline, and he got on really late. I remember I backed out and hired a little known rookie named Andreas Allen!)
-Once a driver had an offer, it was up to the owner to accept or decline it. It was best if they waited to see if they had a serious market for their drivers. However if they waited too long, they may have lost the ride for taking too long!

It was EXTREMELY competitive back in the day. A driver like Richard Johnson would post his name, and we would all go into a feeding frenzy for him!

The only issue with the system is, no one wanted to hire rookies back then. I remember taking a chance on some guy with a crazy name, and then he never commented or cared. But the system did screw rookies over. But that's what we have Hardee's for I guess!

The free-for-all system is the SINGLE biggest thing I miss from the old SCS days.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by MrKyleBusch1 on June 6th 2016, 11:24 pm

Honestly team owners should have the choice to keep drivers that they want to keep and use the draft system for the remaining spots available. The way I look at that style is that someone fighting for the championship wouldn't get a ride because they never knew when signups were. So it should remain on the forums and the people would have to join the forums to be able to get a ride.
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by Mr.YAMP on June 6th 2016, 11:36 pm

I think we do what we did last year and have no driver sign-up still a certain date. Maybe do the video where it is more organized who wants who. My only problem with that is that some drivers want a ride so badly they'll take the first thing they can get so maybe have a rule where 3 teams have to approach/wait 24 Hours till you choose who you're signing with. That would help cut down on some randomness.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by CJ Racing on June 7th 2016, 12:03 am

I agree with Baskinger, I think that anyone that wants to join a team should have to sign up on the forums. At the same time, if the goal is to get "young blood" into the series, then what we should do is a 3-part signup.

1. Re-Signing current drivers
2. Signing/Draft HNS Drivers
3. (If still spaces available), then do a "free-for-all" for any remaining spots.

That way we don't get a massive amount of rookies.

OR, we could do it the College Football way...

There would be a 45-90 day recruiting period, where multiple teams could offer a ride to a particular driver, and at the end of that time the driver would then make the decision. The only issue with that is if the driver they want is not active enough in the forum(or isn't in the forum at all), then it wouldn't work so well. Which is another reason why everyone should join the forums Very Happy

This would create excitement, although it would probably take too long(it would last through the "Silly Season" though Wink ).
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by McBlair on June 7th 2016, 5:37 am

Ok, so could somebody explain to me the draft?
It might be me being stunned, and I have an idea, but I'm not completely sure how the SCS draft would work. I want to be able to put in my argument on which sign-up style we should do.
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by MrKyleBusch1 on June 7th 2016, 7:21 am

^Myatt explained it all
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by Mr.YAMP on June 7th 2016, 7:36 am

Myatt explained it to the point, but me and CJ where making other suggestions.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by McBlair on June 7th 2016, 10:26 am

Ok!
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by FUEL on June 7th 2016, 5:01 pm

What happened last year is exactly what is going to happen this year.


This is how it's going to happen so listen up. Once August comes, I will have all the teams of this season on the Silly Season thread. By then, I will have talked with the team owners and had some sense of idea if they are returning or not. Last year, I asked all the owners if they was looking at getting their same driver of this year, back in the car for the next year. If they want them I will relay the message back to that driver asking if they want to stay or leave or vice versa with the team owner talking to them about it.

Once Silly Season happens all the teams I know are returning will be on there. Sponsors, manufacturer, and drivers will be the main concern. Sponsors and Drivers will be up in the air HOWEVER just like last year, they will be elligible to be resigned by the same team before another team can get them. That means, nobody can get Axalta if Mace Enterprises wants that sponsor back and if Mace Enterprises wishes to bring back Eugene Demax (as an example) they will get that offer however, other teams have the right to offer them a contract for another team.

This seasons Silly Season will be different as well because of last year we had a problem with Skye Commons leaving Redbull last minute after all the Silly Season was done. To put a stop to that we made contracts where you must stay with that team, and/or that team must put up with that driver for the set amount of time that contract is in place.

IT IS MANDATORY THIS YEAR TO SET CONTRACTS. Whether that's til July 2017 or September 2017 or 2017 (meaning all year). The reason for month contracts like setting it to a certain month is because some people in the NR2003 isn't a year long follower of NR Series'. So if that driver vanishes or wants to leave or if the team is trying to fire them, they can't until the end of their contract. Team Owners this season will have to offer drivers rides and a set contract for how long they will be with the team if they choose to race for them.

This will be done on the website first to get all the teams in line, sponsors and manufacturers and to see who all will be participating in the new year. Once we have that in line, I will make a YouTube video for people and how to get involved by joining the website and commenting their name and team owners will ask if they want to race for them.

That is how that will go down. We are not going to do it old school where set all 42+ cars for the new year in one day. We are not going to fill ALL the teams up in one day. It worked back in the day because we started the season days later and the season lasted a few months long. This is a year long season, we are keeping it realistic, the silly season went on from August til December last year and that's what we plan on doing this year. Don't rush to get into a ride, look at your options then decide we encourage team owners to look at all their options before filling their rides but we aren't expecting everyone to fill their teams up in one day like Kenny is wanting to do.

You guys will see how it all works out. A driver whos looking to be in the series will comment their name and team owners will reply to that driver asking if they want to drive for them but this year will be a twist team owners will have to give them a contract to agree to as well. If they agree to it then you have a driver. That's simply how it goes. The rides slowly filled up last year, half the rides filled up in august last year the other half took the rest of the year to fill. By October or November I'm expecting to know all the full time teams participating for 2017 and to have their sponsors, manufacturers, and driver line up organized.

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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by CJ Racing on June 7th 2016, 5:18 pm

Sounds good! And thumbs up on having it all done on the forum, can't wait to see how it all goes!
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by Finnish909 on June 7th 2016, 5:59 pm

...Well, FPNM's pretty set. ...Don't ask I'll wait for a response.
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by McBlair on June 7th 2016, 7:05 pm

Will the National series be returning?
If so Titanium Motorsports will probably drop out of the SCS to gain experience in the National series.

(No, that's not me confirming anything for any hopefuls...)
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by FitzwaterAustralia59 on June 7th 2016, 8:46 pm

MrKyleBusch1 wrote:Honestly team owners should have the choice to keep drivers that they want to keep and use the draft system for the remaining spots available. The way I look at that style is that someone fighting for the championship wouldn't get a ride because they never knew when signups were. So it should remain on the forums and the people would have to join the forums to be able to get a ride.
Agree
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Re: When Will Silly Season For 2017 Start?

Post by JJRacer89 on June 30th 2016, 10:21 pm

Absolutely, last year's method worked out real good. It's not broke, so we shouldn't try to fix it. I just have to fix how I approach this all again and figure out what's best to do on my end. I'll be more on pace with everyone this season though and not lag behind everything.

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